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  1. 11-26-2020, 09:37 PM#1
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    Blue Ridge furnaces

    Anyone familiar with Blue Ridge furnaces?

    My customers who need a new furnace are desperately looking everywhere to find one.
    They found this brand being sold by Alpine Air. I already made it clear that if I was to install it, there would be no warranty with me.

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    Never heard of them but if you're just slamming it in for desperate customers and walking away one furnace is as good as another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SootyView Post
    Never heard of them but if you're just slamming it in for desperate customers and walking away one furnace is as good as another.
    From what I’ve read so far, they’re Chinese made.
    Thanks for the feed back

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyguy1View Post
    Anyone familiar with Blue Ridge furnaces?

    My customers who need a new furnace are desperately looking everywhere to find one.
    They found this brand being sold by Alpine Air. I already made it clear that if I was to install it, there would be no warranty with me.
    From the looks of their manuals, they look like re-branded Allied Air products with a slight nomenclature difference.
    Instead of learning the tricks of the trade, learn the trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rundawgView Post
    From the looks of their manuals, they look like re-branded Allied Air products with a slight nomenclature difference.
    In other words a cheap knock off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyguy1View Post
    In other words a cheap knock off?
    Allied is pretty good these days.

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    I'm tired of these mediocre "semi flammable" refrigerants. If we're going to do it let's do it right.
    Unless we change direction we are likely to end up where we are going.

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    The splits are indeed Allied and Allied is essentially a Lennox with a board difference here & there and cosmetics. Around here, Ducane & Concord prices beat these mail order houses for the same machine.

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Blueridge means quality. The Blueridge BG952V series of 95% AFUE, two-stage gas furnaces have ultra-high efficiency variable speed blowers to provide quiet, even heat throughout your home. Match this furnace with high-SEER air conditioning equipment for unbeatable comfort and efficiency.

The aluminized steel heat exchanger and stainless steel secondary heat exchanger ensure that 95 cents out of every dollar goes directly into heat for your home, not up the flue. Every Blueridge furnace is run-tested at the factory and covered by a 10 year limited parts warranty plus a lifetime heat exchanger warranty.

Furnace Series

BG801E

BG802V

BG921E

BG951P

BG951E

BG952V

BG961E

BG962V

Fuel Efficiency

Blower Motor

High Efficiency

Ultra-High Efficiency Variable Speed

High Efficiency Multi-Speed

Standard Efficiency Multi Speed

High Efficiency Multi-Speed

Ultra-High Efficiency Variable Speed

High Efficiency Multi-Speed

Ultra-High Efficiency Variable Speed

Burner Stages

Efficiency Rating

Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency (AFUE) is a standardized measure of how efficiently your furnace can recover heat from the combustion process. The higher the AFUE %, the more heat you will get per unit of fuel.

80%

92%

95%

96%

OPERATING COST

80¢ of every $1 heats home 20¢ lost as exhaust

92¢ of every $1 heats home 8¢ lost as exhaust

95¢ of every $1 heats home 5¢ lost as exhaust

96¢ of every $1 heats home 4¢ lost as exhaust

VENT TYPE

Metal B Vent Vertical through roof

Plastic PVC Intake and exhaust, roof or sidewall

Plastic PVC Intake and exhaust, roof or sidewall

Plastic PVC Intake and exhaust, roof or sidewall

PRODUCES CONDENSATION

Blower Motor

The blower motor turns the fan (blower) that circulates air through the furnace into your home.

Standard Efficiency Multi Speed

High Efficiency Multi-Speed

Ultra-High Efficiency Variable Speed

Rank

Benefit

Least expensive, standard motor Discontinued 2019 - while supplies last

35% more efficient than standard efficiency motor

Most efficient, quietest, and best comfort

Burner Type

Burners are the place inside the furnace where fuel is burned to create heat. There are two types. Single stage burners operate at 100% capacity. Two stage burners allow the furnace to operate at 65% (first stage) or 100% for increased efficiency and comfort.

Single Stage Burner

Two Stage Burner

Quality

Good Industry standard, simple, effective

Best Stabilizes room temperatures, quieter, more efficient

Description

Burner and fan operate at max capacity when furnace is on

Burner and fan automatically operate in “high” or “low” based on conditions

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Lower up-front cost fits your budget

You want lower utility bills and better heat distribution

Reasons You'll Love Your Blueridge Gas Furnace

It's Guaranteed Reliable

Tighter spaces between burners means less oxidation

Tighter spaces between burners means less oxidation

Taller carryover gap means less buildup of combustion by-products

Taller carryover gap means less buildup of combustion by-products

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No-kink, square pressure switch tubing

No-kink, square pressure switch tubing

Lifetime warranty on heat exchangers, 10 year warranty on all other parts

Lifetime warranty on heat exchangers, 10 year warranty on all other parts

Model series BG951 shown.

Superior Burner Technology

Air channeling and wing-shaped design heat exchanger for maximum heat transfer

Air channeling and wing-shaped design heat exchanger for maximum heat transfer

Aluminized steel primary, stainless steel secondary heat exchangers

Aluminized steel primary, stainless steel secondary heat exchangers

No-weld, patented clamshell heat exchanger design eliminates hot spots

No-weld, patented clamshell heat exchanger design eliminates hot spots

One-piece burner design for cleaner performance, longer life

One-piece burner design for cleaner performance, longer life

Model series BG951 shown.

It's Easy To Install

Patented collector box allows for no-step conversion to horizontal - just lean it over

Patented collector box allows for no-step conversion to horizontal - just lean it over

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Thumbscrew front cover access - no tool required

Thumbscrew front cover access - no tool required

Smart design features cuts installation time by 60 mins

Smart design features cuts installation time by 60 mins

One-tool design, all inside fasteners are the same size

One-tool design, all inside fasteners are the same size

Self-aligning guides and built-in support channels designed into all major components

Self-aligning guides and built-in support channels designed into all major components

Model series BG951 shown.

It's Super Quiet

Sequential ignition across smaller burners means no "whoosh" on startup

Sequential ignition across smaller burners means no "whoosh" on startup

Solid state ignition means no multiple clicking sounds when furnace lights

Solid state ignition means no multiple clicking sounds when furnace lights

Thicker sheet metal, cabinet reinforcements result in a rigid, vibration-free chassis

Thicker sheet metal, cabinet reinforcements result in a rigid, vibration-free chassis

Foil faced insulation blanket stops noise transmission and heat loss

Foil faced insulation blanket stops noise transmission and heat loss

Model series BG951 shown.

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Blueridge is a brand of mini-split ductless heat pumps. The Blueridge brand is the in-house product of Alpone Home Air, located in Chicago, IL, It is manufactured by Midea. Midea Group, which is headquartered in China and reported revenue of approximately $35.2 billion in 2017.


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Also question is, who makes direct comfort furnaces?

Direct Comfort by GoodmanDirect Comfort from Goodman Manufacturing, designed and manufactured in the United States, is a complete line of air conditioning, heating and ventilation products with exceptional value for homeowners.

One may also ask, are Blueridge mini splits any good? Re: Blueridge Ductless Mini SplitsNo issues so far, and the units are extremely quiet. They have run on both cool and heat cycles so far and will be able to tell more about energy cost over the next 6 months but the units have made little impact on the electric bill so far.

Regarding this, who makes Goodman furnaces?

Daikin

Who makes the best mini split system?

Reviews of the Best Mini-split Air Conditioners

  1. Senville SENL-24CD Mini-split Air Conditioner and Heat Pump.
  2. PIONEER Air Conditioner WYS018GMFI22RL Mini-Split Heat Pump.
  3. Innova 12,000 BTU Ductless Mini-Split Air Conditioner.
  4. Klimaire KSIA 17 SEER 9,000 BTU Ductless Mini-Split Inverter Air Conditioner.
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Customer Review for Alpine Furnace (AH80G1UH070AP12)
Top HVAC Brands

What are the best gas furnace brands to consider?

Our researchers have earned the reputation for accuracy and thorough information about the brands we review.

We’re not wowed by big marketing budgets that splash Lennox, Carrier and Trane brands on buildings and ad space. In fact, Lennox is last in our list. We explain why below.

Criteria: Instead, we dig into service records, who makes the parts used to build the furnaces and who is allowed to install them.

Why does installation matter? The same reason you choose one mechanic, doctor or roofer over another. Workmanship and training varies a lot, and we discuss the issue in detail in this guide.

2021 Best Furnace Brands

  1. Heil / ICP Brands
  2. Rheem / Ruud
  3. Trane / American Standard
  4. Carrier / Bryant
  5. Goodman
  6. Armstrong Air / AirEase
  7. York / Johnson Controls Brands

That’s the List. Each one is reviewed and rated below on a range of factors.

Basic – Better – Best

Most brands make at least two quality levels and usually three quality levels – basic (entry level), better (most popular) and best (high-performance).

The “Basic/Entry-level” lines or series aren’t included in our ratings and reviews below. They’re OK if you’re looking for a quick furnace replacement before you sell your home – or if you plan to live where you are for just a few years. Otherwise, you’ll get better value and durability from a Better or Best line.

We spell out which lines we’re reviewing, so you’ll have that information as you discuss options with furnace contractors and get estimates for specific furnaces.

Whether you choose a Better or Best option depends on the efficiency and performance level you prefer – also explained below.

What Top 2021 Gas Furnace Brands Have in Common

At least mostly. Not all the brands on the list have all these characteristics, and we’ll let you know when they don’t.

These criteria go a long way toward determining the reliability and longevity of the furnace you buy.

1. Quality Parts

The total furnace is only as good as the parts used to build it, right? Just like an automobile or clothes washer.

Do furnace companies make their own parts?

Most don’t!

Instead, the brands use parts made by component manufacturers like Honeywell, Emerson, Carlyle and Danfoss, to name a few of the larger parts companies.

This isn’t a concern. Those parts companies are dedicated to quality and performance, and it is a very competitive market. Make bad parts, and lose business. Make good ones, and thrive.

The problem with Lennox: This well-known brand is built with the highest percentage of proprietary parts – parts unique to Lennox. And that’s an important reason Lennox gets placed where it does!

If your Trane furnace needs a part, the technician can get a “universal” part to replace it. They’re readily available.

When a Lennox furnace fails, the technician might have to get a Lennox part to repair it. Parts shortages and delays are much more common with this brand as a result. Higher parts prices are a reality too.

2. Longer Warranties

A warranty tells you whether the manufacturer has confidence in its product. A 5-year general parts warranty says, “This furnace is cheap, so don’t expect more than 12-15 years out of it.” Most of the Basic/Entry-level furnaces have 5-year parts warranties, and that’s why we exclude those series.

A parts warranty of 10 or 12 years shows greater confidence in the product’s quality.

3. Good Value

There are a few brands that are nearly or completely identical, yet pricing is different. For example:

Did you know that Carrier furnaces and Heil furnaces are nearly identical in design and the parts they use?

Did you know that you can save 25% or more with a Tempstar? Never heard of Tempstar? Or Day & Night? Heil is a little better known.

The point is that Carrier and Bryant are nearly identical to International Comfort Product (ICP) brands Heil, Day & Night, Tempstar and others.

They are all owned by United Technologies Corporation (UTC). It saves UTC a lot of cash to build each of the 8 brands using the same parts – and often on the same assembly line.

There are two reasons that Carrier and Bryant are priced higher than the ICP brands.

The price difference with Heil/ICP gives consumers choice – or maybe it is just the appearance of choice. And it helps UTC sell to customers they would otherwise lose. Consider:

  • Homeowners that want a “premium” furnace can choose a Carrier – a very reliable furnace. Ditto for Bryant.
  • Homeowners that say, “I’m not going to overpay for a furnace, and Carrier is overpriced,” can choose an ICP brand.

UTC makes money on ICP furnaces, just not as big a profit margin as on Bryant and Carrier. But if you reject an overpriced Carrier or Bryant and UTC has nothing else to offer, it doesn’t get a sale. General Motors offers Cadillac as the premium brand and Chevrolet as a more affordable brand. It’s no different.

Carrier and Bryant installers might be better trained.

Carrier and Bryant require anyone who wants to install their brands to be factory trained. This isn’t the case with ICP brands. It’s an option, not a requirement.

Often ICP brand installers are just as well trained and qualified. In fact, many furnace installers offer both brands – again, to give customers options.

If the furnace contractor you choose offers both Carrier/Bryant furnaces and an ICP brand, the choice is clear – go ICP.

Note on ICP brands: Most of them are regional, so might not be available where you live. Heil has a wide distribution, but Day & Night, Tempstar, Keeprite, Comfortmaker and Arcoaire are regional.

The brands were bought up by ICP/UTC over the years as part of the consolidation the industry went through. There are now only about 7 major furnace manufacturers, though 20+ brands.

Goodman, Daikin and Amana: A similar situation exists with these three brands, all now owned by Daikin Global. They are identical, but Goodman is positioned as the low-cost furnace brand. Amana is marketed as a solid, mid-range brand and Daikin is considered a premium brand. “Give the consumer what they want (or think they want)” is the strategy. But an educated buyer will understand how to get a good furnace for the best price.

Other identical furnace brands: Trane and American Standard, Rheem and Ruud, Armstrong Air and AirEase, the Johnson Controls brands and others are identical too. And they are priced very closely. They don’t play the “premium brand vs. low-cost alternative” game.

4. Qualified and Experienced Installer

We mentioned this in discussing Carrier vs. Day & Night brands.

The quality of the installation makes a big difference in the performance and dependability of a furnace.

Hopefully you found that information useful to you as you research furnace brands. Now it is on to the reviews and ratings.

Top Gas Furnace Brands

We rated each brand on the criteria above and compiled their scores.

Brands

Parts Quality

Warranty

Price/Value

Total Score

Heil/ICP

4

4

4

12

Goodman

3

4

4

11

Rheem/Ruud

3

4

3

10

Maytag

3

3

3

9

Trane/A.S.

4

2

2

8

Carrier/Bryant

4

2

2

8

Armstrong

3

2

3

8

York

3

2

3

8

Lennox

3

2

2

7

  • Excellent = 4 points
  • Very good = 3 points
  • Average = 2 points
  • Poor = 1 point (No “Poor” scores among the top)

Brands built with parts rating “Excellent” should last 17-20 years with minor repairs. The caveat is that they must be properly installed and maintained through the years. Some furnaces last 25+ years when treated with TLC.

Those built with parts rated “Very Good” should last 15-18 years, and possibly longer when properly installed and maintained.

Here they are, starting with this year’s top rated furnace brand.

heil furnace

#1 Heil / ICP Brands

As explained above, International Comfort Products is owned by UTC, the parent company of Carrier. The furnace brands are nearly identical in all but the name plates. The ICP brands offer better value.

We chose Heil because it has the widest national distribution.

Warranty

All Heil furnaces are covered by a 10-year general parts warranty, which is standard for the industry.

The top lines are backed with a Lifetime heat exchanger warranty.

Also, if the heat exchanger fails in the first 10 years, Heil will replace the entire furnace. Replacement warranties are becoming more common, and ICP/Heil has led the way.

Installation

Installers have to be licensed and certified, but not factory trained. An independent certification is NATE – North American Technician Excellence. If the dealer you speak to isn’t factory trained, ask if its installers have NATE certification.

Best Heil Furnaces

  • Heil Ion: This line was released in 2020. It includes one furnace with a modulating gas valve and two 2-stage furnaces. All of them have variable-speed blowers. Ion is now the top line.
  • Heil QuietComfort Deluxe: A modulating furnace and three 2-stage furnaces make up this second-best.

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goodman furnace

#2 Goodman

Goodman has been the low-price, good-quality leader since it started making furnaces in the 1980s.

Today, Goodman is owned by Daikin, a Japan-based global HVAC leader. Daikin bought Amana along with Goodman. Goodman remains a low-cost leader with good quality.

What about Daikin and Amana? Most Daikin and Amana furnaces are identical to Goodman. But costs are higher, so we’ve placed just Goodman on the list.

Warranty

The Best Goodman furnaces have a Lifetime heat exchanger warranty plus a 10-year furnace replacement warranty on the heat exchanger. Goodman will give you a new furnace if the heat exchanger fails in the first decade.

The general parts warranty is 10 years.

Installation

Any certified furnace installer can install Goodman furnaces. In fact, you can buy a Goodman furnace online and install it yourself.

This is the primary reason Goodman used to have a reputation for being poor quality. Anyone could and can install them, and often installation was wrong. Bad installation usually leads to early and costly repairs.

Because of this, it is important to find a NATE-certified installer with good local reviews if you choose Goodman.

Best Furnaces

They aren’t grouped by catchy names. The best models are the GMVM 97 modulating furnace and five GCV models with a range of efficiency and heating options.

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rheem ruud furnace

#3 Rheem / Ruud

These brands didn’t make our list in 2018. There were too many mechanical issues.

However, these identical furnace brands have upgraded quality along with efficiency. Value is good too.

Warranty

It is the best available. These brands just upgraded their warranties, something many brands are doing to be more competitive.

The heat exchanger has a Lifetime warranty with Lifetime replacement too. If the heat exchanger ever fails, Rheem/Ruud will replace not just the part but the entire furnace.  The parts warranty is 10 years.

Installation

Factory training is available but not required for installers. As we said with Heil, make sure the installer is at least certified by NATE – North American Technician Excellence.

Best Furnaces

  • Rheem Prestige and Ruud Ultra Series are the best. The series has two modulating furnaces (modulating gas valves) and three 2-stage furnaces. All the furnaces have variable-speed blowers.
  • Ruud Achiever Plus and Rheem Classic Plus are large series of furnaces with a range of performance options. These are the most popular Rheem and Ruud models.

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maytag furnace

#4 Maytag

Maytag is the best-known brand offered by Nortek Global, a worldwide HVAC company.

Identical brands are Nu-Tone, Broan and Frigidaire. Recently, Nortek Global retired Westinghouse, Nordyne and Tappan, which were also identical brands.

Warranty

The best line, the Maytag 1200 Series is backed by a 12-year parts warranty, the longest general parts warranty available.

The heat exchanger has a Lifetime warranty including a 12-year furnace replacement warranty. If the heat exchanger cracks in the first 12 years, your entire furnace will be replaced.

Installation

These furnaces are installed by a wide range of companies, so we recommend that you work with an installer with the NATE certification.

  

Best Furnaces

The M1200 furnaces are 2-stage models. Many have variable-speed blowers for added comfort.  

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trane furnace

#5 Trane / American Standard

These are identical brands owned by Ingersoll-Rand.

Trane and Americans Standard are the most reliable brands available today.

They are priced nearly the same too, and it is on the upper end of the spectrum. Both are decent values, but not outstanding values.

Warranty

The general parts warranty on top lines is 10 years with a Lifetime heat exchanger warranty.

Installation

Both brands stress using factory-trained installers. This is one reason Trane and American Standard furnaces are among the most expensive.

However, it is also a top reason they are the most reliable – You’re more likely to get proper installation, so the furnace will run as efficiently and as durably as it should.

If you speak to a Trane or American Standard dealer, ask them if they require their installers to go through factory training and authorization. For Trane, it is called being a Trane Comfort Specialist.

Best Furnaces

The American Standard Platinum Series is tops. The Gold Series is next. Both offer a range of modulating and 2-stage furnaces with variable-speed blowers. 80% and 90%-plus models are available.

Trane doesn’t group its furnaces by handy names. The best furnaces include the S9 and XC furnaces with variable-capacity (modulating) or 2-stage heating.

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carrier furnace

#6 Carrier / Bryant

These United Technologies (UTC) brands are nearly identical and cost about the same. Carrier and Bryant are right behind Trane and American Standard in dependability. The difference in their track records is statistically indistinguishable.

Warranty: 10-year parts and Lifetime heat exchanger warranties are common on all Carrier and Bryant furnaces. Of all the brands, these two show the most consistent quality from top of the line to the most affordable furnaces.

Installation: Carrier requires its dealers to be factory trained and authorized.

carrier furnace authorized installation

Bryant does not require it, but does offer it. If you’re concerned about it, ask the Bryant dealer when you get estimates.

Best Furnaces:

  • Carrier Infinity and Bryant Evolution are the top lines. Both include one variable capacity furnace and three 2-stage furnaces. All have variable-speed blowers. Efficiency ranges from 80% to more than 98%.
  • Carrier Performance and Bryant Preferred are the second-best lines and offer a larger range of models including very efficient single-stage furnaces.

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armstrong furnace

#7 Armstrong / AirEase

Right away, we’ll tell you two things: First, these are Allied Air brands, and Lennox owns Allied Air.

Secondly, Armstrong Air and AirEase furnaces are not identical to Lennox. They’re better.

You might hear, “Oh, those are like second-best Lennox furnaces.” It isn’t true. We encourage you to discuss the relationship with Lennox and whether the furnaces are the same if you get estimates from an Armstrong Air or AirEase dealer.

Warranty

The best furnaces have a Lifetime heat exchanger warranty and 10-year parts warranty. Nothing special, but average for the industry.

Installation

Any certified HVAC technician can install AirEase or Armstrong. Factory training is not required. As we’ve said before, make sure the installer is certified by NATE or has similar certification.

Best Furnaces

Each brand makes three variable-speed furnaces. One is a variable capacity or modulating furnace. The others are 2-stage models. We recommend the two-stage models – the 80% efficient unit for warm climates and the 96% model for cold regions.

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york furnace

#8 York / Johnson Controls

York is the best-known of several identical Johnson Controls brands. Others are Luxaire, Coleman and Champion. Each has the same lineup of gas furnaces and other HVAC equipment.

We’re not high on Johnson Controls ACs and heat pumps because of coil issues, but their furnaces are very good.

As far as furnaces go, York and its sister brands are among the brands with a noticeable upgrade in quality and warranty protection in the last five years.

Warranty

The standard 10-year parts and Lifetime heat exchanger warranties. York also offers a 1-yar labor warranty, but most dealers offer this too, even if the manufacturer does not. If your furnace needs repairs in the first year, it probably wasn’t installed correctly.

Installation

Using a York-authorized dealer is optional, not required.

Best Furnaces

For York, the Affinity Series is top of the line and the LX Series is next – and the most popular line. The other brands also have a top series and second-best series.

They all have a basic/entry-level series too, which we don’t recommend unless you’re looking for a budget furnace.

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lennox furnace

#9 Lennox

Lennox makes the most efficient furnaces, air conditioners and heat pumps of any brand. But it’s Lennox quality, cost, warranties and repair delays that put this brand at the bottom of our list.

Warranty

The top lines are the Dave Lennox Signature Collection and Lennox Elite Series. The Signature Collection furnaces have Lifetime heat exchanger warranties and 10-year parts warranties.

The Elite Series warranty is just 5 years on parts and 20 years on the heat exchanger. This is the worst warranty in its class.

Installation

Lennox uses authorized dealers, but not all have been factory-trained by Lennox. We recommend that you ask about factory training before you sign a contract with a Lennox dealer.  

Best Furnaces

Dave Lennox Signature Collection furnaces are the top line – the only series with a decent warranty. The SLP98V with 98.7% efficiency is the most efficient gas furnace you can buy.

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#10 Are There Any Other Major Brands?

Due to consolidation in the residential HVAC industry, the brands and brand groups we’ve listed are your major options.

There are NO other major brands than these.

Some of the brand groups make low-cost options that weren’t considered in this guide. For example, Payne is the budget brand owned by UTC (Carrier, ICP). Ducane is a low-cost Allied Air/Lennox brand. Furnace models are limited to entry-level furnaces.

Just Getting Started?

If focusing on brands is getting ahead of things in your research, perhaps you would benefit from our Gas Furnace Buying Guide, a comprehensive guide to what matters in a gas furnace – Efficiency, Quality, Heating Performance, Furnace Size and Your Climate.

Costs for furnaces, installation and extras like a thermostat and sheet metal work are all covered.  

The Importance of Installing it Correctly

There’s a saying in furnace circles that, “the most important day of a furnace’s life is the day it is installed.”

  • Proper installation will allow the furnace to run as efficiently as it should and last as long as it should with proper maintenance and minor repairs.
  • Bad installation leads to premature breakdowns. The furnace might also run less efficiently than it should. The worst-case scenario is a possible gas leak or carbon monoxide leak. They’re uncommon, but not worth the risk.

You can hire a qualified contractor by following these tips.

Step 1 - Get 3 Quotes From Local Contractors

Let them know you are getting several estimates. They will understand that their estimates have to be competitive.

Step 2 - Find Out the History of the Company

If it’s a new company, avoid it. We recommend using a company with a history in your community of a decade or so. This shows they know what they are doing and have a history of good installation and customer service.

Step 3 - Ask about the Experience of the Installer

It’s great if the company has been around for 50 years. Just be sure the people handling your installation have 5+ years of proven furnace installation experience.

Step 4 - Check Reviews & Compare Costs

Before hiring a furnace replacement company, see what others have to say about it. Good places to check reviews online are Google, the Better Business Bureau, Angie’s List and Yelp.

Compare costs from installers with a good reputation and the promise that the people installing your furnace have good experience.

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Good are any blueridge furnaces

Blueridge Brand Overview

Corporate History

Everest Industries was founded in Louisville, Kentucky, in 2010. The company operates mainly in the warm air heating and air conditioning business and also operates under the name Yellow Supply. The Blueridge trademark was registered by the company in 2014. Blueridge heat pumps are distributed primarily by Alpine Home Air Products.

Product Lines

The Blueridge brand of mini-split heat pumps includes a line of single-zone units ranging from 9,000 to 24,000 BTU, a large line of 42,000 BTU dual-zone, tri-zone, quad-zone and five-zone models, and a line of 30,000 BTU tri-zone systems. Blueridge heat pumps utilize inverter technology and feature built-in fan delay, air-flow direction control, and defrost.

Environmental Impact

Blueridge is a brand of mini-split ductless heat pumps. The Blueridge brand is the in-house product of Alpone Home Air, located in Chicago, IL, It is manufactured by Midea. Midea Group, which is headquartered in China and reported revenue of approximately $35.2 billion in 2017.

Warranty

Blueridge mini-splits are covered by a 5-year compressor warranty and a 1-year parts warranty. Labor costs are not included.

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Some gas furnaces aren’t worth the money you pay for them. Why?

They’re cheaply made, of course, and probably won’t last 12+ years, even with consistent maintenance and likely repairs.

All Brands Make Cheap Furnaces

What? A cheap Lennox furnace? Definitely. Most Lennox furnaces have a 5-year parts warranty.

That’s the warranty length manufacturers slap on furnaces that they don’t expect to run very long without needing repairs – repairs they don’t want to pay for!

A cheap Trane furnace? Yes. But the company motto is, “It’s hard to stop a Trane!” Well, Trane makes a few cheap furnaces.

There are some exceptions to the rule. Carrier and identical-brand Bryant are an example. All the gas furnaces made by these brands are backed by a 10-year general parts warranty. Even the entry-level models are at least average in quality. Rheem/Ruud, Armstrong Air and the ICP brands (Heil, etc.) are other examples of brands that choose not to make cheap, entry-level furnaces.

Why You Should Avoid Cheap Furnaces

Here are 6 reasons to avoid inferior furnaces.

1. They use cheap components, and will likely require costly repairs in the first 10 years.

2. Budget furnaces must be cleaned and tuned every few years, or they will run inefficiently and be more likely to break down. Even good furnaces should be maintained, but it is absolutely essential for inferior models.

3. They have short warranties. The manufacturer knows how good (bad?) they are, so will only back them with a 5-year general parts warranty.

4. Entry-level furnaces are bad at indoor climate control. They all have single-stage burners and single-speed fans. Here’s how that produces poor heating comfort.

  • The fan comes on full speed before the furnace is fully hot. If you’re anywhere near a heat grate, you’ll feel cool air blowing your way. That’s not what you want on a cold January morning.
  • The burner fires 100%, its only option. It will still be roaring hot when the thermostat setting is reached and the burner shuts off. All that hot air still in the furnace has to be blown out, so it is common that the temperature in your home gets pushed a degree or two beyond the thermostat setting. In short, cheap furnaces create temperature fluctuations. This is especially true when they are coupled with cheap thermostats. Swings of 2-3 degrees are common.
  • The blower fan is still going full speed, so you’ll get cool air from the grates at the end of the cycle too.
  •  Finally, a full-speed fan is loud.

5. Discerning home buyers will spot a cheap furnace and realize they are going to have to sink another $3,500 to $7,500 into a new one in the near future. That can be a deal breaker for house shoppers looking at homes at the top of their budget range.

6. For conscientious homeowners, putting a “junk” furnace in a home they are about to sell is an ethical dilemma. Cheap flooring, cheap lighting and cheap countertops are all easily picked up by home shoppers, so there’s no “hiding” them. But a cheap furnace with a Rheem or Heil nameplate on it won’t be recognized as inferior by many house buyers. Is that fair?  To be sure, “Buyer beware.” But the point is worth considering.

Furnace Brand Quality Tiers

All the large furnace manufacturers make three grades of furnace. We call it Basic, Better and Best.

You’re probably familiar with this approach because it is done in almost every product category from carpet to cars to cardigan sweaters.

It’s the “Basic” tier that we recommend avoiding.

We’ll get to them shortly, but here are the three quality tiers, starting with Best, with a description of what you get.

Best Gas Furnaces

Top-quality parts go into these furnaces. Here’s what they deliver:

Longevity: 18-25 years. Yes, regular maintenance is important for maximum durability. And you’ll probably have to make $500 to $1,000 in repairs over its life. But the lifetime value of a premium furnace is excellent.

Performance:Your options are two-stage and variable capacity gas furnaces. Two-stage models run at 65% of capacity most of the time, only kicking into full-capacity when you boost the heat setting on the thermostat or outside temps drop rapidly and the house cools off.

Modulating, or variable capacity, gas furnaces run anywhere from 40% to 100% of capacity (the range is slightly different for a few brands). They only run as hot as needed to perfectly balance indoor temperatures. Climate control is premium.

Both types have variable-speed fans that only run as fast as needed to clear the heat properly. This means they are quieter. And you don’t get chilly blasts at the start and end of a cycle.

FWIW, we recommend two-stage furnaces. Our research shows that they are the best value for the money because they cost less, still do a great job of climate control, and if a repair is needed, it might cost less than repairs to a variable capacity furnace.

Warranties: Lifetime heat exchanger warranty and a parts warranty of 10 or 12 years depending on brand. Most are 10 years.

Many have furnace replacement warranties that provide an entirely new furnace if the heat exchanger fails. The replacement warranties range from 5 years to Lifetime. Ten years is most common, with Heil, Day & Night and Goodman as a few examples. Rheem and Ruud offer a Lifetime furnace replacement warranty on their top models.

Cost: $4,000 to $8,000 installed, depending on the furnace size, brand and installation factors.

Examples: Carrier Infinity, Bryant Evolution, Trane S9, American Standard Platinum, Goodman/Daikin GMVM, Day & Night Ion / Heil Ion, Rheem Prestige and Ruud Ultra, Maytag M1200 and York Affinity.

For more top brands and complete information about these furnaces, see our Best Furnace Brands Reviews.

Better Gas Furnaces

These are mid-grade furnaces.

If you want an affordable furnace that will still give you good durability, this is the tier to consider.

Longevity: 17-22 years with maintenance. You might also spend $750 to $1,200 in repairs over that time, especially in the second decade.

Performance: Most of these are two-stage furnaces with variable speed or multi-speed fans for indoor comfort. A few are single-stage models with multispeed fans.

Warranties: Most have Lifetime heat exchanger warranties and 10-year parts warranties. Some of the ICP brands (Heil, Day & Night, Tempstar and others) give 5-year furnace replacement warranties on the heat exchanger.

Cost: $2,800 – $6,500 based on size, brand and installation factors.

Examples: Carrier Performance, Bryant Preferred, Rheem Classic Plus, Heil QuietComfort Deluxe and American Standard Gold and others. All top brands make mid-level furnace lines.

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Basic Gas Furnaces

Call them cheap, entry-level, builder grade, etc.

These are the ones to avoid if you want a furnace with good performance and durability.

Longevity: 10-18 years with consistent maintenance. You’ll likely have to start spending money on them for repairs

Performance: All are single-stage furnaces. Most have single-speed fans, though a few have multispeed fans that offer a slight increase in climate comfort.

Warranties: 5-year parts warranties are the most common. Heat exchanger warranties are typically 20 years, not Lifetime.

Cost: $1,800 to $4,750 depending on size, brand and installation factors.

Examples: Since these entry-level brands and series are the subject of this article, here is a more complete list.

Worst Furnace Brands to Avoid

In some cases, it isn’t the entire brand – but certain models.

Aire-Flo: This is a Lennox brand of cheap furnaces. We don’t recommend them.

American Standard:Avoid the 80% furnaces that don’t have a Platinum, Gold or Silver designation. There’s a few of them, and they’re not worth considering.

Ducane: This is a Lennox brand with decent quality and warranties. However, we have concerns about Ducane/Lennox parts availability and cost. For this reason, we recommend that you avoid Ducane furnaces.

Lennox:Avoid Lennox Elite and Merit furnaces. The Elite and Merit Series come with just a 5-year parts warranty. Sure, you can pay for an extended warranty that gives you 10 years – but extended warranties are a bad deal for the consumer. Good furnaces are backed by a 10-year parts warranty you don’t have to pay extra to get.

Trane: All furnaces have a 10-year parts warranty. The heat exchanger warranty is 20 years or Lifetime depending on the model. However, we’re not sold on the XR and XT furnaces and recommend you consider a better Trane or different brand furnace.

All the Rest

Not all brands make cheap stuff. Even if, like Carrier, they make three tiers, the lowest tier is pretty good. It couldn’t be called “junk.”

Just so you don’t think we overlooked any brands, here are the rest with a summary of their quality and warranties.

AirEase and Armstrong Air: All furnaces have a warranty of 10 years on parts and Lifetime on heat exchangers. There are no furnaces to definitely avoid.

Amana, Daikin and Goodman: These are mostly identical furnace brands and have some of the best warranties in the industry. All furnaces have 10-year parts and Lifetime heat exchanger warranties. These are solid brands – no cheap furnaces.

American Standard: Platinum, Gold and Silver – No problem. 10-year parts and Lifetime or 20-year heat exchanger warranties.

Arcoaire, Comfortmaker, Day & Night, Heil, Keeprite and Tempstar: These are identical International Comfort Products brands. Each has an entry-level series with a 20-year heat exchanger and 10-year parts warranty. The quality is average, not cheap. These are decent “budget” furnaces for homes in mild climates where a workhorse furnace isn’t necessary.

Bryant & Carrier: All Bryant models are built with quality components and backed by good warranties.

Lennox: The Dave Lennox Signature Collection furnaces have a solid warranty. You might consider avoiding them for other reasons discussed in our Best Furnace Brands Guide. We ranked Lennox at the bottom of all major brands.

Maytag, Broan, Frigidaire and Nu-Tone: These identical Nortek Global brands have very solid warranties throughout the product lineups. There are no cheap models here.

Payne: This is a United Technologies Corporation brand. UTC is the parent company of Carrier/Bryant. Payne furnaces have many of the same components as Carrier models. They are backed by 10-year parts and 20-year heat exchanger warranties. Not bad.

Rheem and Ruud: Solid quality and warranties throughout the product lineup.

York, Luxaire, Coleman: Lifetime heat exchanger and 10-year parts warranties cover all models.

What About Furnaces Bought Online?

That’s an important question to consider.

There are a bunch of places online to buy furnaces.

Most of what you find are off-brands not worth considering.

Some online brands are budget brands owned by major furnace manufacturers. For example:

  • Ingersoll Rand, parent company of American Standard and Trane, makes Ameristar furnaces.
  • Goodman makes Direct Comfort, low-cost cheap furnaces we don’t recommend.
  • International Comfort Products (Heil, etc., and a UTC company) makes AirQuest, which are actually pretty good and have a good warranty.
  • EcoTemp is a random brand that makes cheap furnaces with OK warranties.
  • MrCool is best known for making ductless mini split heat pumps. It also makes a line of cheap gas furnaces.

Here’s the catch!

All furnace manufacturers void the warranty of a furnace bought online. Here is actual wording from warranties:

ICP / AirQuest: “This warranty does not cover…any product purchased on the internet.”

Goodman / Direct Comfort: “This warranty does not apply to: Units that are ordered over the Internet…”

Ingersoll-Rand / Ameristar: “Exclusions… Products purchased direct including, but not limited to, Internet or auction purchases and purchases made on an uninstalled basis.”

You get the point.

We don’t blame them for voiding warranties on internet sales. The manufacturers have no control over who installs them or the quality of the installation.

What we think is shady is selling these furnaces online in the first place. If you’re a homeowner with your “eyes wide open,” and you are willing to get a cheap furnace with no warranty, then that’s your call.

But our guess is that mfurnace replacementany unsuspecting customers find out the hard way that the furnace has no warranty. They either buy it and:

  • Can’t find any certified installer to install it – most won’t touch a furnace bought online.
  • They install it DIY, it breaks down because it is cheap or because they didn’t know what they were doing. They make a warranty claim, and it is immediately denied.

It isn’t worth it!

Avoid Cheap Installation Too!

There is something almost as bad as a cheap furnace brand – and that’s cheap installation.

The most important day of a furnace’s life is the day it is installed. When properly installed, it has the chance to run as efficiently and as durably as possible.

Fail in the installation process, and the furnace will run below its rated efficiency and/or will break down before it should. There’s an industry-wide understanding that furnace installation is just as important as brand.

Here’s how you can avoid cheap installation:

1. Read the PickHVAC Gas Furnace Buying Guide and many Brand Reviews (Carrier, Trane, Goodman, Lennox, Heil, Rheem/Ruud and all other major brands) to learn more about buying a furnace and the brands you’re considering.

2. Get installation estimates from at least 3 local furnace dealers.You can also use our Free Local Quotes to get 3 estimates from qualified and pre-screened furnace contractors who service your area.

3. Ask if the installers are factory trained or at least certified by NATE – the North American Technician Excellence program.

4. Check online ratings and reviews for the furnace company you’re considering.

5. Reject estimates that are much cheaper than the others. Value is good. Cheap estimates usually mean the installers are new and therefore inexperienced, they plan to cut corners or they have a bad reputation and can’t get much work. These are all things to avoid, avoid, avoid.

6. Choose an experienced installer with a good reputation that you believe, based on the estimates, is giving you a fair price.

These tips will help ensure you have a quality furnace installed without overpaying for it. Consider the performance and efficiency that is right for your climate and budget. Our Furnace Buying Guide includes information that will help you decide. It’s a great place to further your research into the right furnace for your purpose.

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