Glock 23 vs 19

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In a recent article, we compared two Glock pistols both chambered for the .40 S&W in an attempt to help our readers decide which for them would be the better fit. We pitted the larger and slightly more accurate Glock 22 against the slightly smaller but more easily concealable Glock 23.

We determined that except for a few use case scenarios where the Glock 22 will be appropriate, the Glock 23 is going to be the superior choice in most situations.

But what if we compare the Glock 23 against another Glock pistol that has the exact same specs but is chambered instead for the smaller and faster 9x19mm Parabellum (more commonly referred to as the 9mm)? Will the Glock 23 still come out on top?

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The 9x19mm Parabellum

picture of a 9mm bullet and a .45 acp bulletThe .355 caliber round commonly referred to today as 9mm or “9 mill” has been around for more than a century. Since it came out in Germany in 1902, it has seen use in countless wars and had been chambered in a lot of different handguns and submachine guns (SMGs).

Its popularity has never diminished and until today, most countries’ law enforcement and military still use it in their sidearms and SMGs, a testament to its effectivity. Here are some of the reasons why:

  • The 9mm offers superior velocity and accuracy compared to other common handgun calibers. In the image above, the 9mm appears puny next to the big fat .45 acp, but the 9mm brass is rated for SAAMI pressures of up to 35,000 psi (240 MPa), which makes it 60% stronger than the .45 acp brass that has a SAAMI pressure limit of only 21,000 psi (140 MPa).
  • Since its case can withstand significantly higher pressures than most other handgun calibers, the 9mm is capable of relatively flatter trajectories at longer distances, making the 9mm rounds very accurate.
  • In ballistics testing, bullets with smaller diameter often offer better penetration compared to ones with larger diameter because they’re lighter, move faster and have a smaller surface area. This is why the 9mm offers great penetration — so great in fact that it can overpenetrate.
  • Since the 9mm bullet’s diameter measures only 355/1000 of an inch, the small footprint also allows for higher magazine capacities without the magazine having to be stretched longer. This is why it is not uncommon to see a ton of differently designed double-stack semi-auto pistols being marketed as “subcompacts” (i.e. they’re really tiny) that have magazine capacities of 13 rounds or so (e.g. Springfield Armory’s XD Subcompact).

The Tale Of The Tape

picture of a table with specs of Glock 19 and Glock 23

Glock 19Glock 23
Length: 7.36 in.Length: 7.36 in.
Height: 4.99 in.Height: 4.99 in.
Width: 1.18 in.Width: 1.18 in.
Barrel Height: 1.26 in.Barrel Height: 1.26 in.
Barrel Length: 4.01 in.Barrel Length: 4.01 in.
Sight Radius: 6.02 in.Sight Radius: 6.02 in.
Weight (mag empty): 25.59 oz.Weight (mag empty): 23.65 oz.
Weight (mag full): 34.42 ozWeight (mag full): 31.06 oz.
Trigger Pull: around 5.5 lbs.Trigger Pull: around 5.5 lbs.
Trigger Travel: 0.49 in.Trigger Travel: 0.49 in.
Barrel Rifling: right hand, hexagonalBarrel Rifling: right hand, hexagonal
Length of Twist: 1 in 9.84 in.Length of Twist: 1 in 9.84 in.
Magazine Capacity: 15 roundsMagazine Capacity: 13 rounds
Optional Mags: 10-, 17- and 33-round magsOptional Mags: 10-, 15- and 22-round mags

The tables above show that both the Glock 19 and the Glock 23 use the same size frame and thus, almost everything about the two is the same.

Concealability shouldn’t be an issue for both these pistols but if you want to know what your best CCW holster options are, check out this exhaustive list of holsters we created.

The only real differences between the two are the calibers they use and the maximum number of rounds that can be loaded in their respective magazines.

Ammo Capacity

picture of a Glock 19 with two magazines

The Glock 19 comes with two 15-round stock mags while the Glock 23 comes with two 13-round stock mags.

There isn’t really a world of difference between 15 rounds of 9mm vs. 13 rounds of .40 S&W. For years, both have been proven effective for self defense.

Even if you’re facing a mob of, say, five to six people intent on disemboweling you (which is very unlikely if you’re not in the military or law enforcement), 15 rounds of 9mm or 13 rounds of .40 S&W are plenty of firepower. You can always reload with a fresh mag in the event that you’ll need more.


So, Which is Better?

Since the Glock 19 and the Glock 23 are practically the same pistols, this comparison will revolve around the two different calibers they use, how effective each can be for self defense situations and how each can affect their respective gun’s handling and accuracy.

9mm vs. .40 S&W: Which is the Better Self Defense Weapon?

As mentioned in my Glock 22 vs. Glock 23 comparison, the .40 S&W is a great option for self defense. It offers the best of both the 9mm and the .45 ACP and thus is a compromise between both.

But there were a few things not mentioned in that article.

Felt Recoil

picture of a guy shooting a magnum revolverA gun’s recoil determines how fast you can fire follow-up shots and how fast you can line up the sights to acquire a new target. A softer recoil lets you do these things faster. In self defense situations, your life may depend on how quickly and effectively you can do these things.

The .40 S&W tends to have a very snappy recoil. In comparison, the 9mm doesn’t have as much recoil — only comparable to a .38 Special fired in a 4-inch barrel alloy revolver. The lighter weight of 9mm bullets doesn’t “kick” like the .40 S&W’s heavier bullets.

Personally, I find the .40 S&W’s recoil to be relatively manageable, and the 9mm’s recoil to be significantly more manageable. I would further argue that both are nothing compared to the .44 magnum rounds shot through a 6-inch Taurus Raging Bull — which just kicks like a damn mule.

Even the .357 magnum’s recoil, especially when fired from a 2-inch snubnose with slim grips, is just plain unmanageable. It’s so bad that it hurts my hands after I fire 10 rounds of hot-loaded 158 grains moving at speeds of around 1,100 fps out of a short barrel.

I would be a happy camper with either the Glock 19 or the Glock 23 for EDC without worrying about recoil. But your mileage may vary.


Glock 19: The Better Shooter

picture of a glock 19 with a flashlight attached

If recoil is going to be an issue, the Glock 19 will always be the better option. But if you think with some range time, you can learn to handle the snappier recoil of the Glock 23, it will be the better option.

If it’s your first time to buy a semi-auto pistol and you haven’t tried shooting either caliber, go to your nearby range and try shooting their rental guns in both the .40 S&W and the 9mm to see which caliber you can handle better.


Glock 23: The Cheapskates’ Delight

picture of a hollow point and a full metal jacketIf you’re carrying the Glock 23, you can load it with whatever .40 S&W ammo you can get your hands on. Full-metal jacket (FMJ) should be okay because by virtue of its inherently larger bullet diameter, the .40 S&W will make bigger holes than the 9mm.

And if .40 S&W FMJs are okay, .40 S&W JHPs will be better as it makes even bigger holes compared to 9mm JHPs.

But if you’re loading your Glock 23 with FMJs, just make sure you get the flat nose (FMJ-FN) type bullets. The wider the meplat (i.e. tip of the bullet), the more violent tissue destruction, which results to faster bad guy incapacitation.

FMJs are usually much more affordable than jacketed hollow points (JHPs). If money or ammo availability will be an issue, the Glock 23 will be the better choice.


Available Loads For Self Defense

picture of hundreds of 9mm ammo

There are a ton of ammo options for the 9mm and the .40 S&W.

If you’re carrying the Glock 19 or any 9mm handgun for that matter, it is highly recommended that you load it with JHPs, as FMJs tend to overpenetrate because of the 9mm’s blistering speeds.

You don’t want over-penetrating bullets hitting innocent bystanders when you have to defend yourself against an armed attacker.

FMJs for the Glock 23 will be fine in most cases, but if you have the money, why settle for FMJs when you can buy even more effective JHPs?

Speer Gold Dots, Federal Hydra-shoks and Remington Golden Sabers are some of the best ammo choices that are available almost everywhere, but you can buy any JHPs as long as they’re from reputable companies, e.g., Winchester, Blazer, etc.

Caliber Conversions

The Glock 23 can be converted easily from .40 S&W to 9mm, but the Glock 19 not so much (it’s possible to convert it to .40 S&W but it’ll be way more difficult).

If you have any of these two pistols and you want to convert to a different caliber, feel free to do so, but be informed that you will be paying for half the parts of a complete handgun (you can use the same frame but you’ll need a new barrel, a new slide, a new trigger system, new magazines, etc.) and there might be fitting involved.

We would recommend to just buy the other gun if you want a dual caliber system instead of spending more $$$ for a conversion kit as it just doesn’t make any financial sense. But if you still want to explore your options, feel free to call Glock’s customer support. You’ve been warned.

Special Mentions

If your Glock has feeding issues with JHPs (i.e. after firing the handgun, it ejects the case, and the next round in the magazine fails to feed in the barrel’s rear end) but it properly cycles with FMJs, you can try Federal’s Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ), Hornady’s Critical Defense or Corbon’s Pow’rball.

These bullets were designed to feed as reliably as traditional FMJs and expand to quickly incapacitate bad guys like JHPs.

Notes Of Caution

picture of two cast lead flat nose bullets

Glock barrels don’t play well with non-jacketed bullets (LFNs, LRNs), i.e. cast lead gas-checked bullets without copper jackets.

If you have any Glock handgun and JHP ammo in your area are too expensive that you have no other choice, buy only the jacketed ones (FMJs).

DON’T EVER buy cast lead bullets for your Glock.

Extreme Pressure Ammo

picture of three underwood ammo boxes labeled +p+Some 9mm ammo are labeled +P+. These are not to be mistaken with those labeled +P.

The +P designation denotes an increase in pressure, resulting in higher bullet speeds and better overall ballistic performance. SAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute) pegs the pressure limit for the 9mm +P at 45,000 psi (310 MPa).

To date, they have not set any specifications for a +P+ 9mm load.

I personally have never shot any +P+ rounds before, but just looking at available data online, the 9mm +P+ can get to around .357 SIG or 9×23 Winchester levels of ballistic performance. Sounds like a great idea, right?

Not really. All Glock pistol barrels are rated for +P ammo but not for +P+. Thus we can not recommend any +P+ ammo for use with any Glock pistol.

But you probably won’t listen anyway. If you’re so inclined to shoot +P+, at least get an all-steel 1911 chambered for 9mm. Here’s a list of the toughest 9mm 1911s on the market.

Pricing

Nothing much can be said about pricing. Both handguns are priced exactly the same, info taken from Glock’s website. The Gen4 variant for each costs $549, while the Gen3 is considerably cheaper at $475 base price.

If you want to know why the Gen3s are cheaper than the Gen4s, you can find them here. If not, then feel free to jump to the Conclusion.


Conclusion

For the recoil-sensitive, we recommend the Glock 19 for the following reasons:

  • It will have a milder felt recoil due to its 9mm chambering which will allow for faster follow-up shots and faster target acquisition. In self defense situations these could be the difference between life and death.
  • It will also be great as a range and target practice piece as the softer recoil will make shooting a pleasurable experience for hours on end.

However, we cannot dismiss the merits of the Glock 23 for the following reasons:

  • For those who have issues with ammo availability in their area, the Glock 23 will be the better choice. With its .40 S&W chambering, the user will not have to rely solely on JHPs and other special bullet designs because by default, the 40/100 inch-diameter bullet will make bigger holes.
  • If loaded with JHPs, the Glock 23 will make even bigger holes than the Glock 19 loaded with JHPs.

You can’t go wrong with either the Glock 19 or the Glock 23. Both are superb choices for an everyday carry (EDC) piece and both were made by the same company known for their guns’ reliability.

Therefore, it is with great pride and a bit of dismay that we have to declare this showdown a draw. Furthermore, if you’re looking to buy one of these, or already own a model, you might want to check out this article about the best Glock 19 holster.

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Glock Gun Battle Royal: Glock's Model 19 vs. Model 23 (Which Is Better?)

You can’t go wrong with either the Glock 19 or the Glock 23. Both are superb choices for an everyday carry (EDC) piece and both were made by the same company known for their guns’ reliability.​

In a recent article, we compared two Glock pistols both chambered for the .40 S&W in an attempt to help our readers decide which for them would be the better fit. We pitted the larger and slightly more accurate Glock 22 against the slightly smaller but more easily concealable Glock 23.

We determined that except for a few use case scenarios where the Glock 22 will be appropriate, the Glock 23 is going to be the superior choice in most situations.

But what if we compare the Glock 23 against another Glock pistol that has the exact same specs but is chambered instead for the smaller and faster 9x19mm Parabellum (more commonly referred to as the 9mm)? Will the Glock 23 still come out on top?

THE 9X19MM PARABELLUM

The .355 caliber round commonly referred to today as 9mm or “9 mill” has been around for more than a century. Since it came out in Germany in 1902, it has seen use in countless wars and had been chambered in a lot of different handguns and submachine guns (SMGs).

Read the full article.

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Glock 19 Glock 23 Warning Dangerous

Be careful if you shoot a Glock 19 and a Glock 23. You may end up making a dangerous mistake like shooting a 9mm round of ammunition through your .40 caliber chambered Glock 23 pistol.

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DANGEROUS GLOCK SITUATION?

A Glock 19 is a semi-automatic pistol which shoots 9mm Luger ammunition. A Glock 23 is a semi-automatic pistol which shoots .40 S&W caliber ammunition. Both guns are virtually identical unless you read the designations on each gun. Their magazines also look the same. If you own both guns or shoot both guns, be careful not to get them confused and use the wrong ammunition in the wrong gun. You could end up with a very dangerous situation.

These are pictures of what happens when you fire 9mm Luger Ammo in a .40 caliber Glock 23 pistol. Notice how the casing expanded to fit the .40 caliber chamber (it also shrunk a little). A split can be seen starting to form. A standard 9mm Luger casing and a standard .40 S&W caliber casing are shown next to it for comparison purposes.

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Deformed 9mm Luger Case (Left)
Normal 9mm Luger Case (Right)
Deformed 9mm Luger Case (Left)
Normal 9mm Luger Case (Right)
Deformed 9mm Luger Case (Left)
Normal 9mm Luger Case (Middle)
Normal 40 Caliber S&W Case (Right)

SHOOTING 9MM LUGER AMMO IN A .40 CALIBER GLOCK 23?

I was at the indoor shooting range yesterday when I struck up a conversation with the guy shooting in the next booth over. His name was Michael. Michael had just purchased two new guns, a G23 and a G27. Both are .40 caliber pistols.

I was shooting 9mm Luger ammunition in my G19. It turned out that my G19 and his G23 were virtually the same gun, only chambered for different ammunition. Offers were extended to shoot each other’s guns which lead to a little bit of competition shooting with both of us using the same shooting booth and targets. We would switch off and on. He would shoot, then I would shoot. Both of our guns (and corresponding magazines) rested on the shooting bench adjacent to each other.

When it was Michael’s turn to shoot, he picked up his G23, inserted a magazine and fired at the target. A larger than normal ball of fire spit out the front of the barrel and different sounding “bang” was heard. This lead to a jam (almost a stove pipe) in his G23 pistol.

When he removed the spent casing he discovered that it was one of my 9mm rounds. The 9mm Luger casing was badly deformed and expanded (see pictures). It had also started to spit. He had mistakenly picked up my 9mm Glock 19 magazine, inserted it into his .40 caliber G23 and fired it. This could have been disastrous.

Michael immediately field stripped his G23 and inspected the gun and the barrel. Fortunately it looked all right and had no apparent damage. A few shots down range confirmed that he gun was in working order. We then did a little further investigation.

THE .40 CALIBER GLOCK 23 WILL SHOOT 9MM LUGER AMMUNITION (BADLY & DANGEROUSLY)

We were both amazed and a little shocked to discover that his Glock 23 could shoot my 9mm Luger ammunition. We did not know that it was possible to do so and thought that the Glock Company would have designed safeguards against it. We then inserted my empty Glock 19 magazine into his .40 caliber Glock 23 only to find that it fit like a glove. It snapped into place and functioned just like one of his Glock 23 magazines. The empty magazine locked back the slide and ejected nicely when the magazine release was depressed. You couldn’t tell the difference between our two magazines unless you read the inscriptions on them.

At the time we did not think to test his Glock 23 magazine in my Glock 19 pistol, but it would most likely fit. I am assuming that his .40 caliber ammo would not shoot or fit in my .9mm Luger chamber.

LESSONS LEARNED – DON’T MIX UP YOUR GLOCK 19/23 AMMO & MAGAZINES

If you own both a Glock 19 and a Glock 23 it might be a good idea to color code your magazines as well as your Glocks. It will help avoid a mix-up and a potentially dangerous situation. You can color code your magazines with colored magazine floor plates or Glock magazine floor plate bumpers. You can color code your Glocks with colored slide covers.

 

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INTERCHANGEABLE GLOCK MAGAZINES

What you sated as being a problem with Glocks being that the magazines fit in each others corresponding gun is actually what the majority of us love about Glocks. The magazines are the exact same dimensions and the frames are identical. The fact that I can own a Glock 23 or 22 and simply buy a specific 9mm barrel meant for the Glock 23 and a magazine and now be able to shoot both calibers in the same pistol. Same thing with a Glock 21 being able to shoot 10mm with a 10mm barrel. I think it is one of the huge advantages of a Glock. You could also put a Glock 23 slide on a Glock 19 and shoot .40s&w that way. Glocks are not the only pistol where the .40 cal and 9mm magazines fit in each others gun.

I can’t believe the the round actually went off though. That must be a very rare occurrence. The round should’ve just went further up in the barrel not allowing the firing pin to strike the primer. I guess this is a good lesson to shooters to be sure to have a heightened awareness when operating a firearm of any kind. It is as simple as labeling magazines, guns, maybe a different added grip or colored tape or something if you own both. Or just keeping everything separate.

If Glock were to further their safety measures for this it would have to do with the extractor, barrel or feeding mechanism. Just because you couldn’t put a magazine in the gun doesn’t mean you couldn’t put a round directly in the barrel, so I guess this could happen in any gun which is why it is always advertised to be perfectly sure of the firearms caliber before firing at all times. I simply have never inserted a magazine without looking at the cartridge before inserting, and have never chambered a round before checking for obstructions. I hope your friend will be more careful next time. Happy shooting.
Jon

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GLOCK CONVERSION KITS

This is so that conversion kits are possible ex: converting a g19 to shoot 40s
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Glock 19 vs Glock 23

Please Note: The Glock Experience program is closed due to Covid 19.

Glock 19 vs Glock 23. This comparison experience is one of our most popular offerings. The compact frame Glock 19 chambered in 9 x 19mm vs the compact frame Glock 23 chambered for .40 Smith & Wesson. Customers are often undecided about which caliber to choose from for their personal defense weapon and/or carry gun.

TRY BEFORE YOU BUY

To assist the decision making the Glock Experience event is run as follows: Approximately an hour in duration a certified firearms instructor will first take you through the essential details of both the Glock 19 and 23 semi-automatic pistols. Covering all aspects of safety and basic maintenance requirements. Both calibers will be discussed and the pros and cons debated as well as an updated review of current and newly released loads for both calibers. Following this initial briefing, the customer will fire a total of 50 simulated laser shots on a target using a Glock laser training pistol. This pistol has a similar weight and trigger pull to the actual pistol they will live fire. During this initial training exercise, your instructor will discuss grip, sighting, and trigger pull techniques with you.

The customer will then progress to live fire. On two targets – which the customer may keep –

5 rounds at target 1 Glock 19 – 5 rounds at target 2 Glock 23

20 rounds at target 1 Glock 19 – 20 rounds at target 2 Glock 23

Debrief and conclude the session.

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